As a freshly minted young pilot, dad's first mission was taking beer to altitude for chilling. A couple weeks later another new guy would show up and be delegated the responsibility.
I was a loadmaster and that is seriously overloaded. Given enough runway it may fly as it looks like the weight is possibly within CG limits but I wouldn't fly on that.
Full fuel, 207 max payload is around 600 lb; max payload is 1000 lb with barely enough gas. Just because the doors will close doesn't mean it'll haul a cabin full of lead bricks- or what looks to be around 10-12 kegs. A full keg is roughly a standard man (70 kg, around 160 lb - and yeah, I know that's a fantasy these days but that's still the standard). 6 visible kegs = 960 lb, no pilot. Math is hard, unforgiving, and fatal if ignored. With the visible load, minimal fuel, and a midget pilot, it might take off. It won't get far.
If the kegs were full, the nosewheel would be off the ground. Looks like the end of season clean-up at a fly-in fishing camp. What I want to know is why it has four VHF comm antennas? Al_in_Ottawa
Former AK bush pilot here and that is a Cessna 206. You can see the differences between the 206 above and the 207 here: https://www.globalair.com/aircraft-for-sale/specifications?specid=404 ). The Cessna 206 has an average empty weight of 2,000 pounds and a gross weight of 3,600 pounds, meaning its effective useful load is around 1,600 pounds. It has a typical fuel capacity of 59 gallons which means the full fuel useful load is approximately 1,246 pounds, though with extended range tanks of 88 gallons the full fuel useful load is approximately 896 pounds. https://airplaneacademy.com/useful-load-of-every-popular-cessna-piston-aircraft/
It is a standard practice in Alaska (and elsewhere) to fly with the minimum safe fuel aboard, which is often less than full fuel. If we assume 40 gallons of fuel and a 200 lb pilot, we can fly 7 full 160 lb kegs safely and legally. My guess is that those are empty kegs or a mixture of empty and full kegs. I have weighed, loaded and flown many loads of groceries that looked like they were way overweight, but I weighed every load and never flew overloaded.
Yup. AK bush airline mechanic here…those are prob’ly empties. There’s normal nose strut extension. It’ll fly as soon as the frieght apes get it all strapped to the seat rails. That’s an awfully clean 206 (no bag pit behind the cowl that tge 207 has) for running the bush….even the Kydex on the door is in one piece. Gotta be a high dollar fly-in lodge operation.
That looks like a Cessna 207. Flying dumpster. Cram it in, and if the doors will close, it will fly.
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DeleteThat's a two tripper, one for the beer, the other for the ice.....
ReplyDeleteGod bless them.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's extra fuel for a non stop flight from Long Island to Paris.
ReplyDeleteAs a freshly minted young pilot, dad's first mission was taking beer to altitude for chilling. A couple weeks later another new guy would show up and be delegated the responsibility.
ReplyDeleteThat's a good story!
DeleteI'm not a load master, but that looks heavy.
ReplyDeleteI was a loadmaster and that is seriously overloaded. Given enough runway it may fly as it looks like the weight is possibly within CG limits but I wouldn't fly on that.
DeleteWell, it IS OKTOBERFEST time!
ReplyDeleteLooks overloaded.
ReplyDeleteFull fuel, 207 max payload is around 600 lb; max payload is 1000 lb with barely enough gas. Just because the doors will close doesn't mean it'll haul a cabin full of lead bricks- or what looks to be around 10-12 kegs. A full keg is roughly a standard man (70 kg, around 160 lb - and yeah, I know that's a fantasy these days but that's still the standard). 6 visible kegs = 960 lb, no pilot. Math is hard, unforgiving, and fatal if ignored. With the visible load, minimal fuel, and a midget pilot, it might take off. It won't get far.
ReplyDeleteIf the kegs were full, the nosewheel would be off the ground. Looks like the end of season clean-up at a fly-in fishing camp. What I want to know is why it has four VHF comm antennas?
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Maybe returning the empties for credit?
ReplyDeleteProlly just hauling his empties back to the distributor, post-kegger. I'm a little miffed that I wasn't invited to the party, tho'.
ReplyDeleteMy guess is MT kegs, no need to hyperventilate.
ReplyDeleteFormer AK bush pilot here and that is a Cessna 206. You can see the differences between the 206 above and the 207 here: https://www.globalair.com/aircraft-for-sale/specifications?specid=404 ). The Cessna 206 has an average empty weight of 2,000 pounds and a gross weight of 3,600 pounds, meaning its effective useful load is around 1,600 pounds. It has a typical fuel capacity of 59 gallons which means the full fuel useful load is approximately 1,246 pounds, though with extended range tanks of 88 gallons the full fuel useful load is approximately 896 pounds.
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It is a standard practice in Alaska (and elsewhere) to fly with the minimum safe fuel aboard, which is often less than full fuel. If we assume 40 gallons of fuel and a 200 lb pilot, we can fly 7 full 160 lb kegs safely and legally. My guess is that those are empty kegs or a mixture of empty and full kegs. I have weighed, loaded and flown many loads of groceries that looked like they were way overweight, but I weighed every load and never flew overloaded.
Yup. AK bush airline mechanic here…those are prob’ly empties. There’s normal nose strut extension. It’ll fly as soon as the frieght apes get it all strapped to the seat rails. That’s an awfully clean 206 (no bag pit behind the cowl that tge 207 has) for running the bush….even the Kydex on the door is in one piece. Gotta be a high dollar fly-in lodge operation.
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