WHO didn't see that coming? 90+% of the weight of that tree was at the side of the house. Just doing the first cut at the other side just doesn't cut it.
Honey, the tree company wants 7500 minimum to take the tree down. I can do it myself if you buy me a new Stihl and your brother can help and we will pay him. Piece of cake, for safety I'll run a rope and hook it to the truck and pull when it starts falling.
Always snub the tree when it's within range of a structure. Cut your notch, snub the line, take up tension - then, make the cut. So easy - $200 worth of tackle and nylon rope would have spared the home.
I used to use a come-a-long when there was ANY chance of a tree hitting something important (I learned that the hard way). FWIW I had no trees that size!
Nope - 200 bucks of tackle aint going to help much with that tree. That tree weighs more than several big cars and would just take whatever you're anchored to right with it.
Roping it off to help force it to fall away and also cutting off all the house-side limbs (especially adding ropes so the limb falls away from the house as they are cut.)
It's slow, but can be sped up a tad using a cherry picker.
Get the weight off the house side, make a better deeper cut on the away side, and rope that bitch like it's at a hentai party.
they cut a lot of big tree around here, but they always have some sort of tension on them when they do it. like 2 or more ropes attached to the damn tree with backhoes pulling on the ropes. one guy does it with pullies and tractors. he never had a tree "getaway" from him. but he not cheap either. he set up a day or more before "dropping" one. and he has a waiting list too. I called in may and he not able to get to me until late July at the best. maybe later, he doesn't know, depends on how well things/trees go.
A friend and I used to take down trees 50 years ago. While we never took one down as large as this one, we always climbed the tree and topped it out and removed the large branches, lowering to the ground with a rope. I would have taken the rest of the tree down to a comfortable level 6' at a time. What a couple idiots.
Used to work for a couple of arborists a long time ago… as above, all the branches would have been cut off in small, easily handled sections and roped down and a huge amount of that tree would have come down in pretty small slices, especially that close to the house.
No hard hats, eye or hearing protection visible. Overcut scarf cut. Didn't see the weight distribution. Should have plunge cut the rear and used a hydraulic jack. Whose insurance covers that?
I noticed that the rope was loose at every point on the video. I'm assuming it was there to direct the tree because it looks like it was meant to pull it away. Wether or not it was enough could still be argued. However I'm wondering if someone told the tree cutter that the rope should be tight. And the tree cutter didn't put tension on it to teach that person a lesson to not open their mouth and mind their own business. I've seen people that stubborn and stupid. Arrogant to the point of stupidity. And the peanut on top is they will sit there and wonder why these types of things only happen to them. When you point out that they are the only one around that does things that way. They get pissed off at you.
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Wow...just wow...
ReplyDeleteWHO didn't see that coming? 90+% of the weight of that tree was at the side of the house. Just doing the first cut at the other side just doesn't cut it.
ReplyDeleteAlso because it's a "Mondays suck" feature. But you do you...
DeleteJohn G
When the bar gets pinched at :40 that's a giveaway which way the tree wants to go.
ReplyDeleteHoney, the tree company wants 7500 minimum to take the tree down. I can do it myself if you buy me a new Stihl and your brother can help and we will pay him. Piece of cake, for safety I'll run a rope and hook it to the truck and pull when it starts falling.
ReplyDeleteAlways snub the tree when it's within range of a structure. Cut your notch, snub the line, take up tension - then, make the cut. So easy - $200 worth of tackle and nylon rope would have spared the home.
ReplyDeleteBull shit!
DeleteI used to use a come-a-long when there was ANY chance of a tree hitting something important (I learned that the hard way).
DeleteFWIW I had no trees that size!
Nope - 200 bucks of tackle aint going to help much with that tree. That tree weighs more than several big cars and would just take whatever you're anchored to right with it.
DeleteYou're just pulling it off vertical, dummy, not lifting it.
DeleteI've seen two ton truck flung when people tried that. Use a cherry picker and take it down one little piece at a time.
DeleteRoping it off to help force it to fall away and also cutting off all the house-side limbs (especially adding ropes so the limb falls away from the house as they are cut.)
DeleteIt's slow, but can be sped up a tad using a cherry picker.
Get the weight off the house side, make a better deeper cut on the away side, and rope that bitch like it's at a hentai party.
they cut a lot of big tree around here, but they always have some sort of tension on them when they do it. like 2 or more ropes attached to the damn tree with backhoes pulling
ReplyDeleteon the ropes. one guy does it with pullies and tractors. he never had a tree "getaway" from him. but he not cheap either. he set up a day or more before "dropping" one.
and he has a waiting list too. I called in may and he not able to get to me until late July at
the best. maybe later, he doesn't know, depends on how well things/trees go.
Damn it man...
ReplyDeleteJD
Gravity always wins.
ReplyDeleteyep, gravity sucks.
DeleteHope nobody was taking a nap in that former house
ReplyDeleteYou NEVER take that gamble. NEVER!
ReplyDeleteYeah, I didn't take any physics classes in school, don't need that shit in life
ReplyDeleteIt was my first day.
ReplyDeleteWhy take it down at all? That was a big, beautiful, and healthy cottonwood. A good pro arborist could give it a pruning job, if storms are a concern.
ReplyDeleteThat said, yeah, someone did not gauge that tree right for felling.
They took it down so it wouldn't fall on the house in a storm.
DeleteAnd Populus species tend to get so big, catch every disease around and die quickly.
Like the house.
Cottonwood roots are a big problem, that one probably has surface roots causing the house issues. Of course not as big as not having a house.
DeleteOhhhhhh . . . fudge.
ReplyDeleteA friend and I used to take down trees 50 years ago. While we never took one down as large as this one, we always climbed the tree and topped it out and removed the large branches, lowering to the ground with a rope. I would have taken the rest of the tree down to a comfortable level 6' at a time. What a couple idiots.
ReplyDeleteUsed to work for a couple of arborists a long time ago… as above, all the branches would have been cut off in small, easily handled sections and roped down and a huge amount of that tree would have come down in pretty small slices, especially that close to the house.
DeleteCoelacanth
Take out the top and all the big branches first. And the wedge was too small.
ReplyDeleteIf you made a list of everything these guys did that was wrong it would be mighty long.
ReplyDeleteThey were actually getting paid to demolish the house but did not have an excavator.
ReplyDeleteNo hard hats, eye or hearing protection visible. Overcut scarf cut. Didn't see the weight distribution. Should have plunge cut the rear and used a hydraulic jack.
ReplyDeleteWhose insurance covers that?
I noticed that the rope was loose at every point on the video. I'm assuming it was there to direct the tree because it looks like it was meant to pull it away. Wether or not it was enough could still be argued. However I'm wondering if someone told the tree cutter that the rope should be tight. And the tree cutter didn't put tension on it to teach that person a lesson to not open their mouth and mind their own business. I've seen people that stubborn and stupid.
ReplyDeleteArrogant to the point of stupidity. And the peanut on top is they will sit there and wonder why these types of things only happen to them. When you point out that they are the only one around that does things that way. They get pissed off at you.
Find the Muslim Woman: have to dig her out from under all those rocks.
ReplyDeleteGravity works.
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