Yes. Epstein was a pedo and Maxwell was his pimp, so she was properly charged. The rest is mostly rumor and innuendo used for political gain and media ratings. There's still Bill Clinton (above the law) and Prince Andrew who paid off his victim. But there's no huge list of perps being kept secret, if there was it would have been leaked for the gain or ratings.
In the little town I live in, one of the police officers found a city council member in the backseat with an underage girl. The chief of police was called out and let the councilman go ... with the understanding he would protect the police budget at all costs.
This is how the Epstein list works. The people on the list are allowed to live their lives and occasionally those with the list ask a favor or tell them how to vote. If you're comfortable calling that sort of control a distraction, more power to you.
I've long stopped believing that we live in a democracy or a republic. We live in a kleptocracy. Hopefully those controlling the list are pro-American, but I sincerely doubt it.
Epstein's jobs wasn't pimp, nor was it to supply underage children. His job was to create blackmail material. He was good at it, and was the top supplier for decades. He didn't work for the country's elite, he worked for the CIA.
It's unlikely he was actually killed to shut him up, as it would have been to easy for him to set up a contingency release plan.
The latest "there was no files" bullshit it nothing more or less than a signal to his clients that they're still safe - as long as they continue to toe the line.
#16 - hell, no! #BlankTheBallot2026. Every one of them that voted for the onebigbeautifulsh*tsandwich bill with its FIVE TRILLION increase in the debt ceiling, they must be fired. Including the ones that tough-talked and then voted Yes in the end (looking at you, Chip Roy). Start over from scratch. Yes it will take awhile. The 21st century is a lost cause. Do it for the great-great-grandchildren in the 22nd.
There is no 'Epstein List.' That's a shorthand name for a vast trove of incriminating documents, photos, videos, flight logs, victim statements, which, taken together, would be evidence of crimes. The FBi and SDNY have these documents.
Here's the problem, as spelled out at Naomi Wolf's column at Substack yesterday -
I think that it is likely that multiple people who are critical to this administration’s success — my guess is, that these are mostly guys from the Silicon Valley community, who have been the ones to put the fuel of their billions and their technical and media support into President Trump’s campaign and administration’s engines — whether they are innocent or guilty, are in the Epstein files. (Remember why Mrs Gates broke up with Mr Gates?) And I think this nation’s most important scientists, innocent or guilty, are in the files. And my guess is that the funders have confronted President Trump. - If you read the hieroglyphics here correctly, what you should see (this is why it is useful to have been a political consultant; you can read the code, which often involves triangulation or “deniability”) that A/ President Trump is not on this list. B/ President Trump does not wish the horrific baggage of being the one to infuriate all the powerful people who are on this list, by releasing it himself via his AG. C/ They — the Trump administration — want it released by others, ie, the New York courts, so that they themselves don’t receive the appalling blowback.
If any of that was true, the documents would have been released when Biden controlled the DOJ when they were working overtime to derail a second Trump presidency.
Ms Wolf has a serious possibility she is discussing. The biden admin was in the same boat as the Trump admin, none of them want to crucify the powers that be.
I am in the burn it all down party. If our nation is dependent on blackmailing and/or protecting scum, what is the point?
Well, the chit's hittin' the fan. DNI Tulsi Gabbard has referred a whole trove of documents to DOJ implicating Brennan, Comey, Clapper and OBAMA in a criminal conspiracy to subvert Trump's first term.
Even if none of these guys go to jail, their reputations are trashed and the MSM and the Demonrat party ain't saving them this time.
Our rulers are above the law and the only standard a democracist voter holds is the double. In old Soviet Union the people got show trials, all we can manage are show investigations. Nothing much will change. The media will do their utmost to bury any stories about that and the women and various grievance culture tribes will continue to vote blue.
After I thought about it, there probably never was a “client” list. However, I am pretty sure there are flight logs and manifests, credit card receipts, cell/satellite phone gps data, and a few other means of locating someone that IS avaiable. It wasn’t that hard to locate J6’ers and round them up for persecution. Then, there is the staff. The names are there, just have to work for them. And I don’t care whose names are found out. Put each and every one of the scum in the hole in the dungeon. Look it up to find out what that mesns.
Gunny is partly correct. Would Epstein have kept complete flight manifests? Depends on the person flying. I know of groups who meet regularly. Rule 1, turn your cell phone off and leave it at home. Rule 2, don't drive directly to the meeting. Three stops minimum, one is a known shelter who tells you whether you may advance. Rule 3. Park a distance away, enter a business nearby and exit by the back door. Rule 4, different vehicle for each meeting. Kept me alive when doing under cover. Give modern technology, they could fabricate videos and every piece of data they desire.
Ding, ding! Masonry (and satanism) FTW! There's all sorts of secret handshakes and codes that the secret combinations use to identify eachother. Of course, in the age of the internet, all that's available to the public if you care enough to look.
One of the most damning photos I ever saw was a group of celebrities showing off their matching red shoes. (Which means their feet were red with the blood of the "hornless goat" i.e. human sacrifice.)
Not that anybody cares, but if the courts or various investigative agencies actually gave a damn, it wouldn't be hard AT ALL to uncover with modern investigative tools.
But they're all putting their efforts into covering it all up instead. I can't imagine why they'd do such a thing, of course.
Lets face it, the sex stuff is just the facia, the gingerbread, the icing on the cake that attracts the flies. Epstien's real business was espianage and nobody talks about that!
All comments are moderated due to spam, drunks and trolls. Keep 'em civil, coherent, short, and on topic. Posted comments are the opinions of the commenters, not the site administrator.
Epstein and his non-existent client list are a distraction.
ReplyDeleteYes. Epstein was a pedo and Maxwell was his pimp, so she was properly charged. The rest is mostly rumor and innuendo used for political gain and media ratings. There's still Bill Clinton (above the law) and Prince Andrew who paid off his victim. But there's no huge list of perps being kept secret, if there was it would have been leaked for the gain or ratings.
DeleteBugger off!
DeleteIn the little town I live in, one of the police officers found a city council member in the backseat with an underage girl. The chief of police was called out and let the councilman go ... with the understanding he would protect the police budget at all costs.
DeleteThis is how the Epstein list works. The people on the list are allowed to live their lives and occasionally those with the list ask a favor or tell them how to vote. If you're comfortable calling that sort of control a distraction, more power to you.
I've long stopped believing that we live in a democracy or a republic. We live in a kleptocracy. Hopefully those controlling the list are pro-American, but I sincerely doubt it.
Epstein's jobs wasn't pimp, nor was it to supply underage children. His job was to create blackmail material. He was good at it, and was the top supplier for decades. He didn't work for the country's elite, he worked for the CIA.
DeleteIt's unlikely he was actually killed to shut him up, as it would have been to easy for him to set up a contingency release plan.
The latest "there was no files" bullshit it nothing more or less than a signal to his clients that they're still safe - as long as they continue to toe the line.
John G.
#16 - hell, no! #BlankTheBallot2026. Every one of them that voted for the onebigbeautifulsh*tsandwich bill with its FIVE TRILLION increase in the debt ceiling, they must be fired. Including the ones that tough-talked and then voted Yes in the end (looking at you, Chip Roy). Start over from scratch. Yes it will take awhile. The 21st century is a lost cause. Do it for the great-great-grandchildren in the 22nd.
ReplyDeleteStupid party vs Evil party.
Delete--Tennessee Budd
I'm undecided if # 5 or # 8 is the most truth
ReplyDeleteJD
There is no 'Epstein List.' That's a shorthand name for a vast trove of incriminating documents, photos, videos, flight logs, victim statements, which, taken together, would be evidence of crimes. The FBi and SDNY have these documents.
ReplyDeleteHere's the problem, as spelled out at Naomi Wolf's column at Substack yesterday -
I think that it is likely that multiple people who are critical to this administration’s success — my guess is, that these are mostly guys from the Silicon Valley community, who have been the ones to put the fuel of their billions and their technical and media support into President Trump’s campaign and administration’s engines — whether they are innocent or guilty, are in the Epstein files. (Remember why Mrs Gates broke up with Mr Gates?) And I think this nation’s most important scientists, innocent or guilty, are in the files. And my guess is that the funders have confronted President Trump.
-
If you read the hieroglyphics here correctly, what you should see (this is why it is useful to have been a political consultant; you can read the code, which often involves triangulation or “deniability”) that A/ President Trump is not on this list. B/ President Trump does not wish the horrific baggage of being the one to infuriate all the powerful people who are on this list, by releasing it himself via his AG. C/ They — the Trump administration — want it released by others, ie, the New York courts, so that they themselves don’t receive the appalling blowback.
Bs
Delete"Let truth and justice prevail, though the heavens may fall!" - H/T to whoever said that.
DeleteIf any of that was true, the documents would have been released when Biden controlled the DOJ when they were working overtime to derail a second Trump presidency.
DeleteMs Wolf has a serious possibility she is discussing.
DeleteThe biden admin was in the same boat as the Trump admin, none of them want to crucify the powers that be.
I am in the burn it all down party. If our nation is dependent on blackmailing and/or protecting scum, what is the point?
Well, the chit's hittin' the fan. DNI Tulsi Gabbard has referred a whole trove of documents to DOJ implicating Brennan, Comey, Clapper and OBAMA in a criminal conspiracy to subvert Trump's first term.
ReplyDeleteEven if none of these guys go to jail, their reputations are trashed and the MSM and the Demonrat party ain't saving them this time.
https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/press-releases-2025/4086-pr-15-25
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1946271402971312514.html
Nemo
Our rulers are above the law and the only standard a democracist voter holds is the double. In old Soviet Union the people got show trials, all we can manage are show investigations. Nothing much will change. The media will do their utmost to bury any stories about that and the women and various grievance culture tribes will continue to vote blue.
DeleteThere is no statute of limitations for treason.
DeleteJpaul
After I thought about it, there probably never was a “client” list. However, I am pretty sure there are flight logs and manifests, credit card receipts, cell/satellite phone gps data, and a few other means of locating someone that IS avaiable. It wasn’t that hard to locate J6’ers and round them up for persecution. Then, there is the staff. The names are there, just have to work for them. And I don’t care whose names are found out. Put each and every one of the scum in the hole in the dungeon. Look it up to find out what that mesns.
ReplyDeleteBill shit!
DeleteCalm down, Bill.
DeleteGunny is partly correct. Would Epstein have kept complete flight manifests? Depends on the person flying.
DeleteI know of groups who meet regularly. Rule 1, turn your cell phone off and leave it at home. Rule 2, don't drive directly to the meeting. Three stops minimum, one is a known shelter who tells you whether you may advance.
Rule 3. Park a distance away, enter a business nearby and exit by the back door.
Rule 4, different vehicle for each meeting.
Kept me alive when doing under cover.
Give modern technology, they could fabricate videos and every piece of data they desire.
#1 aint got the correct picture, they should be shaking hands (secret handshake)....
ReplyDeleteDing, ding! Masonry (and satanism) FTW! There's all sorts of secret handshakes and codes that the secret combinations use to identify eachother. Of course, in the age of the internet, all that's available to the public if you care enough to look.
DeleteOne of the most damning photos I ever saw was a group of celebrities showing off their matching red shoes. (Which means their feet were red with the blood of the "hornless goat" i.e. human sacrifice.)
Not that anybody cares, but if the courts or various investigative agencies actually gave a damn, it wouldn't be hard AT ALL to uncover with modern investigative tools.
But they're all putting their efforts into covering it all up instead. I can't imagine why they'd do such a thing, of course.
John G.
Lets face it, the sex stuff is just the facia, the gingerbread, the icing on the cake that attracts the flies. Epstien's real business was espianage and nobody talks about that!
ReplyDeleteEverybody talks about it.
DeleteThis has a little information to add to the Epstein saga.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.mintpressnews.com/blackmail-jeffrey-epstein-trump-mentor-reagan-era/260760/
Dave