Still think that smart thermostat was a good idea?
Power companies in Texas are remotely raising temperatures inside of some customers’ homes amid the state’s ongoing energy shortage.
Houston resident Brandon English, whose home has an internet-connected smart thermostat installed, was shocked to learn of the practice after his wife and infant daughter “woke up sweating.”
As per the article (copy n paste) “The program, which customers have to opt-into, allows power companies to remotely adjust thermostats when energy demands are high in exchange for an entry into a sweepstakes.”
Wait, so you gambled and are crying about paying your bill?? Some places they send a couple dudes in suits to “collect” or “remind you of your fucking duty to pay”. More proof of how worthless city people are.
Smart thermostats are great! FREE smart thermostats are for morons! They signed up the big brother overwatch when they enrolled in the "power hours" or whatever they try to call it to hook you into getting the "free" thermostat. People need to quit blaming others for their own stupidity or failure to do research. They'll never learn that you NEVER get something for nothing.... except maybe herpes.
P.S. I also have a hell of a deal on line maintenance insurance that I'd sell ya for a limited time only. Just $4.99 / month for piece of mind knowing you're protected. 🙄
When California first introduced that line insurance, it was 50 cents a month. A friend in a apartment signed up for it and a few months later realized it was a dumb idea. They wanted to charge him $50 to turn it off.
I have had a "Smart Meter" in Illinois for 20 years, got mine early on. I got mine because I am on a program in which I don't pay a flat rate, but it depends on peak usage. So my electricity in the summer is really cheap between 12 am-6am but really expensive 3pm 5 pm. It's a good deal for me because I do not run my air very much and NEVER at peak time. Also on a program that allows the electric company to cycle my air conditioner on/off during extreme peak times. They pay me $40 a year and in 20 years, I think they may have notified me of one time when they were going to do it, but my air wasn't on anyway.
People are such pussies these days. I keep my thermostat at 78 degrees in the summer and it'scomfortable enough. Hell it's right at 100 degrees here in July and August with humidity in the 80 to 90 percent range so it's a damn 20 degree drop in temperature. JD
It's not just the temperature, it's the dew point. And you folks claiming 78 is a fine temperature for a thermostat... maybe if you're a freaking lizard. Outdoors 78° is one thing. Indoors? Ideal sleeping temperature for humans is 60-65°. That's the temperature range that best facilitates restful sleep, per multiple studies and exhaustive research on the subject. I manage to tolerate 73° with a fan blowing directly on me while I sleep. 78°? Riiight. That's cute. You enjoy your subtropical sauna, I'll stay in my relatively reasonable temperate zone.
All that aside, only a moron would agree to let someone else have control over their thermostat...I don't care *what* the "sweepstakes" were. And you couldn't pay me to install a big brother thermostat. People used to be called paranoid when they thought someone was monitoring everything they did. Now it's paranoia to refuse to *purchase* products that *advertise* the fact that they monitor everything you do!
Who says " ideal sleeping temperature is 60 - 65 " ????? Sounds like some useless survey we are supposed to blindly believe because........ Those temperatures are too cold for me to be comfortable, I would have a sweatshirt and pants on if I kept the temperature that low. In other words I would be paying to cool my home while bundled up to stay warm, that's stupid.... Like I said... PUSSIES JD
All meters will be controlled by the utility company(ies). When the electric company came around to switch out my outside meter, I chased them away. They came back the next year to inform me that I was the last house to be switched and again tried to chase them away. While the employee was totally sympathetic to my objection, I was told nicely that it's going to happen and there's nothing I can do about it. Oh well, I tried. "Yinzer'
78 degrees is about right for a sedentary person. 76 degrees for active people. 65% borders on insanely cold. If you pay attention to those that complain loudest about utilitybills it is the people that run the heat up to 80% and the A/C down below 70%. It is the same people. Also, in the winter they will leave the front door open to let light in. Ask the Gas or Electricservicemen if you know one to tell you some stories about what they see when out on collections.
"78 degrees is about right for a sedentary person. 76 degrees for active people. 65% [degrees?] borders on insanely cold."
I don't get it. I know this thread started out about the power company in Cali setting peoples thermostats for them, and I agree, I would never let them do that. But it has devolved into folks telling everyone else what the perfect temperature in their own house should to be.
Look, if YOU think 78 degrees is the perfect sleeping temperature - for YOU - I wouldn't dream of presuming to tell you otherwise. However, FOR ME, that's way too hot. I'm a big guy - not fat - just big. I'm also warm blooded, as is my wife. We are both comfortable in temps that are much cooler than most folks. (...and we both HATE hot weather.) Shirtsleeves outside on a 55 degree day is normal for us. I have a friend who is just the opposite. In 75 degree temps, he's wearing a jacket or sweater. (He's also a skinny runt who weighs about the same as when he was 11 years old.) My 90yo mother keeps her house at about 80 degrees in the winter. I can hardly stand it when I am visiting, but it's HER house, so I would never consider telling her to change it.
What you like is what you like. What I like is what I like. It's neither wrong nor right, it's just what we as individual free American citizens prefer. My wife and I pay a little extra for AC in the summer, and my mom pays for a little extra gas in winter.
Why that should be anybody else's business is beyond me.
Personally I don't care about these people but they were foolish enough to put their private business in the public square by complaining about a deal they made in their private lives. They chose to put themselves out to the general public and acted like spoiled children while doing so and that allows for criticism of them and their stupid decisions. That's what we are doing. If you want your business private don't put it out in public, plain and simple. JD
A - they signed up for the remote control program, this wasn't a surprise.
ReplyDeleteB- 78F isn't very hot, the only way the wife and daughter were sweating is if they were bundled up because they keep the house at 68F....
Freaping idiots, the lot of them.
One of the many reasons I won't have a smart thermostat in my house.
As per the article (copy n paste)
ReplyDelete“The program, which customers have to opt-into, allows power companies to remotely adjust thermostats when energy demands are high in exchange for an entry into a sweepstakes.”
Wait, so you gambled and are crying about paying your bill?? Some places they send a couple dudes in suits to “collect” or “remind you of your fucking duty to pay”.
More proof of how worthless city people are.
🏴☠️Bert
Smart thermostats are great! FREE smart thermostats are for morons! They signed up the big brother overwatch when they enrolled in the "power hours" or whatever they try to call it to hook you into getting the "free" thermostat. People need to quit blaming others for their own stupidity or failure to do research. They'll never learn that you NEVER get something for nothing.... except maybe herpes.
ReplyDeleteP.S. I also have a hell of a deal on line maintenance insurance that I'd sell ya for a limited time only. Just $4.99 / month for piece of mind knowing you're protected. 🙄
When California first introduced that line insurance, it was 50 cents a month. A friend in a apartment signed up for it and a few months later realized it was a dumb idea. They wanted to charge him $50 to turn it off.
DeleteThey woke up sweating when the house got to 78 degrees?
ReplyDeleteHow freaking cold do they keep their house that they're sweating at 78?
I have had a "Smart Meter" in Illinois for 20 years, got mine early on. I got mine because I am on a program in which I don't pay a flat rate, but it depends on peak usage. So my electricity in the summer is really cheap between 12 am-6am but really expensive 3pm 5 pm. It's a good deal for me because I do not run my air very much and NEVER at peak time. Also on a program that allows the electric company to cycle my air conditioner on/off during extreme peak times. They pay me $40 a year and in 20 years, I think they may have notified me of one time when they were going to do it, but my air wasn't on anyway.
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ReplyDeleteSteve in KY
People are such pussies these days. I keep my thermostat at 78 degrees in the summer and it'scomfortable enough. Hell it's right at 100 degrees here in July and August with humidity in the 80 to 90 percent range so it's a damn 20 degree drop in temperature.
ReplyDeleteJD
It's not just the temperature, it's the dew point. And you folks claiming 78 is a fine temperature for a thermostat... maybe if you're a freaking lizard. Outdoors 78° is one thing. Indoors? Ideal sleeping temperature for humans is 60-65°. That's the temperature range that best facilitates restful sleep, per multiple studies and exhaustive research on the subject. I manage to tolerate 73° with a fan blowing directly on me while I sleep. 78°? Riiight. That's cute. You enjoy your subtropical sauna, I'll stay in my relatively reasonable temperate zone.
ReplyDeleteAll that aside, only a moron would agree to let someone else have control over their thermostat...I don't care *what* the "sweepstakes" were. And you couldn't pay me to install a big brother thermostat. People used to be called paranoid when they thought someone was monitoring everything they did. Now it's paranoia to refuse to *purchase* products that *advertise* the fact that they monitor everything you do!
Who says " ideal sleeping temperature is 60 - 65 " ????? Sounds like some useless survey we are supposed to blindly believe because........ Those temperatures are too cold for me to be comfortable, I would have a sweatshirt and pants on if I kept the temperature that low. In other words I would be paying to cool my home while bundled up to stay warm, that's stupid....
DeleteLike I said... PUSSIES
JD
Everybody is not like you, JD.
DeleteYou keep your thermostat wherever you like, but where others keep theirs is nobody else's business.
Roy, it is if they're on social media and such whining about it
DeleteJD
Simple solution: A small space heater right next to the thermostat. Make the thing think it's 115 in the house.
ReplyDeleteAll meters will be controlled by the utility company(ies). When the electric company came around to switch out my outside meter, I chased them away. They came back the next year to inform me that I was the last house to be switched and again tried to chase them away. While the employee was totally sympathetic to my objection, I was told nicely that it's going to happen and there's nothing I can do about it. Oh well, I tried. "Yinzer'
ReplyDelete78 degrees is about right for a sedentary person. 76 degrees for active people. 65% borders on insanely cold. If you pay attention to those that complain loudest about utilitybills it is the people that run the heat up to 80% and the A/C down below 70%. It is the same people. Also, in the winter they will leave the front door open to let light in. Ask the Gas or Electricservicemen if you know one to tell you some stories about what they see when out on collections.
ReplyDelete"78 degrees is about right for a sedentary person. 76 degrees for active people. 65% [degrees?] borders on insanely cold."
ReplyDeleteI don't get it. I know this thread started out about the power company in Cali setting peoples thermostats for them, and I agree, I would never let them do that. But it has devolved into folks telling everyone else what the perfect temperature in their own house should to be.
Look, if YOU think 78 degrees is the perfect sleeping temperature - for YOU - I wouldn't dream of presuming to tell you otherwise. However, FOR ME, that's way too hot. I'm a big guy - not fat - just big. I'm also warm blooded, as is my wife. We are both comfortable in temps that are much cooler than most folks. (...and we both HATE hot weather.) Shirtsleeves outside on a 55 degree day is normal for us. I have a friend who is just the opposite. In 75 degree temps, he's wearing a jacket or sweater. (He's also a skinny runt who weighs about the same as when he was 11 years old.) My 90yo mother keeps her house at about 80 degrees in the winter. I can hardly stand it when I am visiting, but it's HER house, so I would never consider telling her to change it.
What you like is what you like. What I like is what I like. It's neither wrong nor right, it's just what we as individual free American citizens prefer. My wife and I pay a little extra for AC in the summer, and my mom pays for a little extra gas in winter.
Why that should be anybody else's business is beyond me.
Personally I don't care about these people but they were foolish enough to put their private business in the public square by complaining about a deal they made in their private lives. They chose to put themselves out to the general public and acted like spoiled children while doing so and that allows for criticism of them and their stupid decisions.
DeleteThat's what we are doing.
If you want your business private don't put it out in public, plain and simple.
JD
Good point, JD.
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