#3 Yep, that's what is looks like when the brakes are locked when you land. Looks like they maybe lucky as it appears that it didn't grind into the axle stubs. They may get away with a tire/wheel/brake assembly change.
#5, Always assume that the load will weigh twice what the customer says it weighs. #6, What you get for not buying a quality tool. #3, fell off a jack. #10, Oh Shit
#3 Either the anti-skid system failed spectacularly or the brakes are carbon-carbon and the plane taxied through water puddles prior to takeoff. Carbon brake discs are porous and will absorb water easily. When the landing gear is retracted the brake discs are horizontal so they stack on each other and freeze together. Pilots are supposed to drag the brakes when taxiing in wet conditions to boil the water out. As to the absence of skid marks, that is not a runway, the plane was moved, probably by using a truck with airbags under the wing. Large airports have special equipment for moving crippled planes off the runway. Al_in_Ottawa
As an A&P Mechanic, I've seen a few of these.... Worst one was a Falcon 900, left Seattle in Slush and Snow, flew to the East Coast, and all four Brakes were Frozen. Ground the Wheel Flanges off them all, stopped in the middle of the Runway in a cloud of Rubber Smoke. Couldn't get the nose of a Rhino Jack under it, had to hump the Tripods out and lift by the Wings. Owner had a Spare Wheel and Tire, I called another guy with a Falcon and borrowed another, so we could put one Wheel on each Gear. The Strangest Thing was, that Ice in the Brakes was Supercooled- like to -70 or so - and it took an Hour with a Torpedo Heater against the Rims to Melt it, so the Wheel could come off.
The Owner was on board, it was the Kid Co-Pilot flying. He was Terrified, the Owner asked what it would Cost to Fix it, and off the top of my Head, I replied, "Tires, Wheels and Brakes, maybe $90,000" His Mechanic said, "you can take it out of the Co-Pilot's Paycheck in small increments..." The Owner was Laughing harder than the rest of us. It did cost about $90K, and the Insurance deductible was 100, so he had to Eat It.
#8: This is why you should spring for a Horizon Smoker and not anything on shelves. I have one and it's 1/4" thick steel and it produces food that people fight over.
#3 Yep, that's what is looks like when the brakes are locked when you land. Looks like they maybe lucky as it appears that it didn't grind into the axle stubs. They may get away with a tire/wheel/brake assembly change.
ReplyDeleteOh, you know better than that!
Deletewhere are the skid marks then?
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Well I’m sure the Pilot and Copilot had to change the shorts right away, stewardess and people to follow…
DeleteIn the pilots shorts.....
DeleteAnd the jack point is between the two wheels, below the surface. Good luck with that.
DeleteLMAO....
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And the hood rats didn't bring cement blocks?
DeleteOutside of commenter #1, obviously not a lot of A&P mechanics here.
DeleteI did #8 with a whole hog when I fell asleep during an overnight cook.
ReplyDelete#8 - Just say the last rites and scatter its ashes somewhere peaceful.
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Nah, that fell of a jack. Wheels went straight down through the pavement without a single mark leading to the holes the wheels are in.
ReplyDeletea lot of expensive oh fuks up there... #8 - yeah, that's enough bark on that .... brisket?
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#5, Always assume that the load will weigh twice what the customer says it weighs. #6, What you get for not buying a quality tool. #3, fell off a jack. #10, Oh Shit
ReplyDeleteYep. Monday the 13th.
ReplyDelete#3 Either the anti-skid system failed spectacularly or the brakes are carbon-carbon and the plane taxied through water puddles prior to takeoff. Carbon brake discs are porous and will absorb water easily. When the landing gear is retracted the brake discs are horizontal so they stack on each other and freeze together. Pilots are supposed to drag the brakes when taxiing in wet conditions to boil the water out. As to the absence of skid marks, that is not a runway, the plane was moved, probably by using a truck with airbags under the wing. Large airports have special equipment for moving crippled planes off the runway.
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https://www.airlive.net/emergency-newark-airport-was-shut-down-after-united-ua2098-was-evacuated-on-runway/
DeleteAs an A&P Mechanic, I've seen a few of these.... Worst one was a Falcon 900, left Seattle in Slush and Snow, flew to the East Coast, and all four Brakes were Frozen. Ground the Wheel Flanges off them all, stopped in the middle of the Runway in a cloud of Rubber Smoke. Couldn't get the nose of a Rhino Jack under it, had to hump the Tripods out and lift by the Wings.
DeleteOwner had a Spare Wheel and Tire, I called another guy with a Falcon and borrowed another, so we could put one Wheel on each Gear.
The Strangest Thing was, that Ice in the Brakes was Supercooled- like to -70 or so - and it took an Hour with a Torpedo Heater against the Rims to Melt it, so the Wheel could come off.
The Owner was on board, it was the Kid Co-Pilot flying. He was Terrified, the Owner asked what it would Cost to Fix it, and off the top of my Head, I replied, "Tires, Wheels and Brakes, maybe $90,000" His Mechanic said, "you can take it out of the Co-Pilot's Paycheck in small increments..." The Owner was Laughing harder than the rest of us. It did cost about $90K, and the Insurance deductible was 100, so he had to Eat It.
#3: That's what happens when you park your jet in the wrong neighborhood.
ReplyDelete#6: made in china
ReplyDelete#8: This is why you should spring for a Horizon Smoker and not anything on shelves. I have one and it's 1/4" thick steel and it produces food that people fight over.
ReplyDeleteWTF does the thickness of the steel have to do with someone burning the meet to a crisp? Enquiring minds want to know!
DeleteThicker metal holds the heat and distributes it more evenly so you don't have to use as many coals.
Delete#10) Captain: "We'll be landing in a few minutes, folks. On behalf of Air Kentucky, we hope you enjoyed your flight and hope to see you again soon"
ReplyDeleteUm, isn't the fire supposed to be on the inside of the engine?
DeleteI think this was the flight in question. A JetBlue A320 landing at LAX with nose gear twisted sideways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epKrA8KjYvg
ReplyDeleteIf you look, that is not the nose gear that is worn, that is the main. You can see the body of the plane in the background.
Delete#4 This is what happens when the fly by wire shifter/throttle control go bazerk with a 1820hp Cats behind it.
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