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They'll plant all these trees and mismanage the new forests by not allowing proper cutting, thinning and harvesting of the timber, then blame climate change for the massive fires that erupt as a result.
Tuesday, August 02, 2022
Let's see how badly they can fuck this up
BILLINGS, Mont. — The Biden administration on Monday said the government will plant more than one billion trees across millions of acres of burned and dead woodlands in the U.S. West, as officials struggle to counter the increasing toll on the nation's forests from wildfires, insects and other manifestations of climate change.
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I am pretty sure they will start another uncontrolled burn so that the seedlings have a good start.
ReplyDeletelike insects are manifestations of climate change.....NOT. Those biden fuckers will say anything to promote their climate-change bullshit. I am sick of them and their bullshit.
ReplyDeleteThey're a side effect from a century of fire suppression and stopping logging. Too damn many trees fighting for resources makes a weak forest, leaving them vulnerable to disease/pests. A healthy forest, at least in the Western US, is far from crowded.
DeleteI can't believe there hasn't been a catastrophic burn in the Big Sky, Montana area. 15 years ago, some of that land was absolutely choked with deadwood like Yellowstone was before the mega-fire there in 1989.
DeleteFirefighters in Florida used to put out every brush fire, but we quickly found out that this made for bigger fires later on down the road. Now we let them burn themselves out, unless they threaten structures. It seems counterintuitive, but allowing wildfires to clear out dead and overgrowth makes for smaller fires overall.
ReplyDeleteYou would almost think that fire is a man-invented phenomena that needs to be eradicated. Those greenies really know what they're talking about.
DeleteI went through the Florida phase of Ranger School not long after they had done controlled burns on the back 40 of Eglin AFB. It’s amazing how quickly one’s BDUs will rot off one’s body after being repeatedly covered in ash then soaked in swamp water. I must have gone through 3 sets of uniforms in the 11 day patrol phase.
Deletewhat the H. is a bdu?
DeleteBattle Dress Uniform - nowadays more likely to include an actual dress.
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Battle Dress Uniform aka "Fatigues". The military has an anacronym for everything.
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That would be battle dress uniform to you civilians
DeleteFatigues are what we wore before BDUs. Luckily I got out right when BDUs came out, so I never had to wear the stupid looking things.
DeleteI went through Air Force basic the very last week they were issuing fatigues. I preferred the summer-weight BDUs when I was in the Philippines, they were a little cooler. Damned things faded fast, though.
DeleteIf they were true enviroweenies thay wouldn't plant anything and just let a natural succession forest grow. To be honest, unless I was planting for commercial harvest that's what I'd do.
ReplyDeleteI literally live in the woods in a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Across the road is a plot of several hundred acres of pines that was harvested 12 years ago and replanted but has never been thinned. It will eventually be harvested for pulpwood. On my side of the road the several hundred acres that my little acre is part of was clearcut 2 years ago but not replanted and is growing as a natural succession forest. The biodiversity, both plant and animal, is tremendous. It's really cool seeing the plants and animals that inhabit the land change over the years.
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ReplyDeleteI don't think palm trees and bamboo will do well in Montana, but sinceHunter is on the board of the Florida company Palmco, LLC it'll get done.
ReplyDeleteThey'll spend $billions to throw a bunch of acorns around Arizona.
ReplyDeleteOak trees aplenty out here, Arizona is pretty diverse as trees go. Tell them we need money trees!
DeleteThey should just give the job to Weyerhauser. I lived in Cottage Grove, OR for 15 years, and did a lot of riding in the Coast Range. Trust me, those guys know their shit when it comes to sustainable forestry. My ex worked as a producer, and one of her jobs was a 15 minute video of how Weyerhauser restored the forests on Mt. St Helens, while the gubment sponsored "let it grow back naturally" tact was a dismal failure resulting in a jumble of scrub growth. Weyerhauser is already harvesting from their lands.
ReplyDeleteI just read an article that Weyerhaeuser logged their first harvest post-blast in 2005 and were scheduled to do a second last year. Those 40+ year old Doug Firs will be some nice sticks.
Delete"Weyerhaeuser. The Tree Growing Company."
This is the Forest Service we're talking about here. Their specialty is tearing up an iron wedge in a feather bed with a rubber mallet.
ReplyDeleteIn 1992 there was a fire just east of Placerville, California called the Cleveland Fire. It burned just under 24.000 acres. Half was El Dorado National Forest and half was private ground owned by Michigan California Lumber Company. The fire started in late September and I was on a crew salvage logging within two weeks on a harvest under an 'emergency clause' applied for by Mich-Cal and approved by the California Department of Forestry (CalFire). Not a twig was moved off of Forest Service ground until the following July (a case us loggers refer to as 'analysis paralysis').
By the following summer, Mich-Cal had salvage logged and replanted half their burned ground, with plans to complete work on the 12,000 acres they lost by the following spring. By that time the Forest Service would just be getting warmed up salvage logging their ground, with most of the fir already lost to bugs and checking.
It was over a year after the fire that local television stations were running stories about the Forest Service looking for volunteers to help them replant their burned ground. This effort would get underway at about the same time Mich-Cal would be putting their ground to bed until their next pre-commercial thinning, which would be happening right around now.
I've been saying for almost 50 years now that the U.S. Forest Service is completely dysfunctional. And it's not getting any better.
Ain't gonna fucking work. Those fires burn so hot that they sterilize the soil. You have to let all the bugs and creepy crawlies get back in so that they can do their magic and make the soil useable. Planting any trees before that happens just means a ton of dead seedlings.
ReplyDeleteThe plan isn't to rebuild a forest, the plan is to sell seedlings. Lots and lots of seedlings.
DeleteI thought an increase in the number of trees brought higher temperatures.
ReplyDeleteI planted a shitload of trees in Tahoe National forest as a member of the CA Conservation Corps in 81'. I'm certain they have burned yet again.
ReplyDeleteThe Tahoe is one of the few National Forests in NorCal that hasn't been pounded by wildfires in the last 20 years.
Deletehttps://caltopo.com/map.html#ll=39.33111,-120.70404&z=9&b=mbt&a=fire
I'm not certain about the 20 years before that, but there's a good chance your trees are alive and well. I hope they are.
Let me guess, it's projected to cost little and save much, but will be pillaged of funds and or run up in costs far beyond projections and only a token handful of trees will be planted, and they won't even be the right type for the area. Sounds bout right, no?
ReplyDeleteLet me get this straight. The land is so fertile that trees won't grow so we'll plant some? Who's going to water these trees? I'm sure the gov't contracts are for $ billions. I'm sure the people involved probably know someone in these gov't departments. No way this could go wrong!!
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