Dining facilities -- critical for sustaining the health and readiness of troops -- are reportedly offering fewer options, with some meals falling short of basic nutritional standards. Earlier this month, the issue was exemplified by a meal in which soldiers were served a single piece of toast and a handful of lima beans for dinner, according to one soldier stationed there who shared imagery of the meal. Even getting access to those limited rations can be hard, given confusing dining hall schedules and seemingly random closures that make it difficult for many to access hot meals.
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While the quality of the food sometimes left a little to be desired, there was never a shortage when I was in the army. I was on separate rations, but I could hit the chow line as many times as I was willing to pay.
This is what happens when you focus on DEI.
ReplyDeleteThe link reads to me like a severe senior management issue, possibly because of lack of logistics/supply skills. 4600 Soldiers who are resident and 600 average daily users tells me that need is critical on the days before payday. Perhaps a review of the ease of fast food availability when the troops are flush? I know how it was to be E4 and three days before payday.
ReplyDeleteHad to search for an chow hall a few times and did have to buy our own shit paper for awhile
ReplyDeleteah but we can give ebt cards, free housing and medical care to illegal aliens.
ReplyDeleteContract services suffer ALL of the failings of modern life in America.
ReplyDeleteAir Force, '69-'73'. Food at Mconnell AFB in Kansas always had at least, good food, sometimes really good. Last duty station, Keflavik NAS, Iceland, our little orphan, Air Force squadron (190 ish total) always had good food and really good, plenty, might not be seconds on steak. The Navy guys and Marines (5000 ish) had all you could eat, mostly pretty good.
Air Force '68-'80, Keflavik '73-'74. Same here, we always had quality meals. Some of the best meals, outside of good restaurants, that I had were at a small dining facility at Chanute AFB late '74 when I went back for an advanced metal heat treating course.
DeleteAF 72-76 Vandenberg to Udorn Thailand, great chow available always. Hungry at night, just go to the flight line chow hall and get omelets built to order. Every base was the same, brass shows for inspections, we get steaks.
DeleteThe best chow I had during my deployment were at Air Force bases we stopped at in route to Afghanistan. The difference between them and the army chow was comparing a soup kitchen to Golden Corral. Air Force had better tasting, variety, and amount.
DeleteWhen we got to Kandahar we got in tight with all the SOF forces on the base. They all had their own budgets and rations ie fresh food. You can imagine how much better a company of south Louisiana boys can cook better than what the army mess hall was offering.
Never had any complaints about Air Force food. Did bitch about the lack of waiters, though.
Deletefood in line units was good to very good. depending on where you where.
Deletein Berlin, we had really good food ! best mess in Europe 3 years running 77-79
Christmas and turkey day was a real feast ! even bottles of white wine.
was on standby or whatever they called it one turkey day and the OLD MAN BN, commander brought wine to our table. "we where in greens" and some even had their damn web gear ! anyway, one bottle between 3 of us. and don't get drunk !
did a transfer to medical and the food sucked bigtime ! also civy cooks.
not mess Sgts ran it. but the food was nothing I would pay for.
one thing we used to do was bring fruit back to the barracks for the off post guys
most of them where broke all the time. more than one of them took the food home for their kids. same with those boxes of cereal. some would eat them right there dry and some took them home. RED WHITE AND BROKE WAS A REAL THING BACK THEN. and they wonder why no one wants to join ? see below as to why
https://rumble.com/v5vlznk-gross-mistreatment-live-from-the-lair.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
dave in pa.
Yet all the fatsos on welfare can gorge daily thanks to us sucker taxpayers.
ReplyDeleteA friend stationed in Germany reports that things are getting bad there.... but Colorado?
ReplyDeleteAnd Biden just promised ONE BILLION DOLLARS to motherfucking Africa.
ReplyDeleteOn top of everything pissed away on other countries..
Delete- WDS
that its gone on so long indicates a senior management/command failure. i suppose they put a dei female in charge of a cav division? i remember in basic/ait at ft. benning new chow hall folks rotated in and we got sos for breakfast every day for weeks. and not the good sos, but burnt thin soupy sos that turned your stomach. one morning a full bird walked in and went ballistic. we ate very well the last couple of weeks.
ReplyDeleteUhhh, maybe a thing of the past, but was it not the duty of the OD to eat in the various chow halls to ensure decent rations? In my father's day, when he was assigned OD, it was one of his functions.
Deleteyes, but they are easily bought off with a box of bacon/steak.
DeleteAh those days of liver & onions are fond memories.
ReplyDeleteThe Army can't even feed their soldiers, but somehow they can fight a war against a peer advisory.
ReplyDeleteThis is a HUGE problem, a foundation problem (leadership!) when soldiers have food problems at bases in North America.
ReplyDeleteEven out at sea we had plenty of food to eat. Maybe a little thin before an unrep but I don't recall going hungry. Plus there was always the officers mess to pilfer.
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Never take the strawberries..................
Delete"single piece of toast and a handful of lima beans for dinner,"
DeleteThat sounds like NORKs........
You had to pay for your food in the army??
Matt, single soldiers residing in the barracks hit the chow hall and only need to show their meal card. Soldiers drawing BAS have to pay to eat there. During my time it was a nominal fee of a couple bucks I think.
DeleteTMF Bert
That problem is army wide. The budget to buy the food the cooks prepare has not increased in line with inflation. The KY Guard cooks are top notch, best food I've had in the Army,but they can only make what they can get enough of for everybody, whicj means our portions keep shrinking. Luckily it's only 3 or 4 fays a month. Those 2 weeks in the summer suck though. Had to pavm extra ramen in the ruck to stay ged.
ReplyDeleteFrom past experience, 60-73, somebody, CID, should be checking the back door of those mess halls. I saw too much meat leave in the mess cooks trunk.
ReplyDeleteThis was exactly my thought. Something stinks here, and this is a serious failure of leadership.
DeleteThat might explain all the soldiers at the local eateries when we were in Colorado Springs over the summer.
ReplyDeleteOn the USS Enterprise, we had full hot meals at breakfast, lunch, dinner and midrats - eat all you want and get back in line for more if you wish. Plus a line that served nothing but sliders and fries 24/7
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During my tour in the Navy, there was never a problem with the quantity of food available any where I served. The quality was OK too for mass produced victuals.
ReplyDeleteThis story about Ft. Carson was in the news some time ago, six moths or so I memory serves, and THEY STILL HAVEN'T FIXED IT? The supply and chow hall officers need to be fired for incompetency. They can set up remote chow halls using field kitchens to make sure troops that can't to the main chow hall are fed. They fed millions of troops IN THE FIELD over the course of decades in all of the wars we've been involved in since WWII, but they can't can't find a way to ensure troops are fed ON A BASE AT HOME during peace time? WTF over?
This ain't effg rocket science
In the meantime they're spending HOW MUCH on DEI training in the military?
This is the kind of crap that gores down when there's no accountability.
Nemo
Once again, the people that follow this site have first-hand experience from being in the military and can compare this crazy-ass story to their own time served! This is absolute bullshit! As stated, the money flowing out of this country needs to be diverted into taking care of enlisted and veterans that are serving/have served our country!
ReplyDelete"separate rations" ??? I know it doesn't mean a tray with dividers, but what is this?
ReplyDeleteAlso known as "Commuted Rations".
DeleteThe .gov has a commitment to feed you if you're living on base, or give you a dollar amount every day to buy your own grub.
Back in my day, if you could get "Com-Rats" you took the money and ran.
And I'm saying some Supply Sergeant is making a shit-ton of money on this "food shortage." Think of Don Rickles in "Kelley's Heros."
Ft. Riley, Kansas 80 / 81. Our mess hall on weekends served breakfast 6-9 am, then was open 12-5 pm. The food was good but spreading out three meals in that time period was a nuisance.
ReplyDeleteThe tough men makes for easy living. Easy living makes for weak men.....comes to mind. These pieces of shit running our government are the weakest men and women America has ever produced. So entitled they don't even know why they are free.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of a friend who served in the Swedish Army fifty or so years ago. He told me the potatoes they got had been turned down by pig farmers.
ReplyDeleteYep, Navy chow is the best!
ReplyDeleteI served during the VN War-Army, 69-71. Was not sent to the Land of the Little People. We always had adequate chow. As the country was imploding, DOD knew they were sitting on a powder keg of disgruntled draftees. Now, however, with no one threatening your life if you do not give it to .mil, TPTB can f**k over all of the clueless enlistees they want to and no harm, no foul. I have no sympathy for the toast and lima bean victims. If enough horror stories filter back to home, momma, and buddies, maybe there will be a lot fewer enlistees. Fewer enlistees mean fewer ORCS and ORCETTES with guns kicking in our doors at the behest of Mordor-On-The-Potomac. Just saying.
ReplyDeleteI was with the 101 at Ft. Campbell in the mid-90s and would usually eat breakfast at the chow hall since I lived off post and the turnaround to home and back after PT was 45 minutes. I believe breakfast cost about $2 and included eggs to order, pancakes, waffles, sausage, bacon, fresh fruit, etc. It was, essentially, decent diner food, but much cheaper. My kids are 14 and 10, but there’s no way I would let them join today’s military.
ReplyDeleteI can't remember how I did it, but was able to see what was on the menu for different companies.
ReplyDeleteI was able to pick out which mess hall I wanted to chow down in..
I could also type and was in great demand to type out the menus and copy them. The kitchen staff treated me royally.
Good food and plenty for everyone, except liver night.
I worked as a dishwasher at osu 40 yrs ago. They kept us student workers separate from the cooks and servers, who were all ahem, 'local.' Nevertheless it didn't stop me wandering out to the loading dock when a delivery truck was unloading. There I discovered the kitchen staff happily disgorging the contents of the truck into the trunks of their cars.
ReplyDeleteMy brothers both reported great food when they were in the army 30 yr ago, and lots of it.